A couple of years ago, when Trine was editing the blog, she covered a story about nude swimming at the YMCA (in America). Some readers commented that boys did swim nude, and girls in costumes, but on different days. As I wasn't editing at that point, it was a story that largely passed me…
Can you imaging seeing naked guys on public, beautiful school boys nude punishments in locker rooms, young pretty boys naked physicals examinations? And what if they have been touched, groped, masturbated and humiliated?
The first curated commentary dealt with issues that emerged as controversial. Among them was the debate about whether boys swam naked in front of females, whether female coaches, spectators, or mothers and sisters at YMCA family nights. There was also the issue of whether vintage photos on the internet had been photoshopped. We lack photographic evidence of the first issue, and what evidence there is is controverted. We have to trust the credibility of the witnesses who reported on their experiences in our effort to “‘discern the truth” about swimming naked.
While some of those topics remain “itches that wants to be scratched” (as a professor of mine used to say), this second string of curated comments is focused only on the experience of boys being naked in swimming classes and elsewhere (as remembered by adult men). How did boys feel about and react to the experience of being naked in the presence of others? This may be of particular interest to the generations after the 1950s, 1960s, and 1970s, who did not have this experience and, it is reported, now won’t even undress in front of their peers. By the 1990s showers after gym classes were no longer required in the school. Not unrelated, this was a time of increased homophobia.
It has certainly been a great education to read all the comments folks have made. I’m 77 years old and have had extensive experience with naked bathing in both private and public settings over these many years. The first time swimming naked was at a water filled old quarry outside the city of Chicago. I was 10 yr. old at the time. The others called it Bare Ass Beach. I found out why when we arrived. We were all neighborhood boys ages 9 through 15. They stripped off all their clothes and went swimming naked. I was shocked, having been raised by a mother who for religious reasons taught my sister and me that wearing clothes all the time except in the bath tub was the rule. I was a born rebel in those days and still am today. I stripped and went in the water with the rest of the boys. We would ride our bikes two to three times a week to go swimming. A year later my 6 yr. old sister joined us. She had learned from the neighbors what we were doing at the quarry so many times and wanted to go swimming also. She had no problem stripping down naked and joining us. I was a bit embarrassed at the time being naked with my sister but got over it quickly. She then talked a couple of her friends into joining us and soon there were about an equal mix of boys and girls swimming naked together. This lasted for a couple more years. Then someone drowned and the Police had the property owner steel fence the quarry. No more swimming.
The experience served me well. When I was a freshman at a Chicago Public High School I was required to take swimming. The boys were mandated to swim naked. Didn’t bother me a bit but some boys refused. Lots of trouble for them.
I am a widowed heterosexual male, and I find swimming naked feels very liberating and natural. I have visited nudist clubs and beaches, and everyone seems very comfortable being nude in a mixed-gender environment. I think that nudists have a much healthier attitude towards the human body than non-nudists, and I think that it is good to bring up ren in an open environment. ren are taught by our society from a very young age to be ashamed of their nakedness, and girls and women are objectified in advertising, music, porn, and popular culture. Violent porn and some music even sends the message that men can force sex upon a woman. This is why we are experiencing a culture. Society’s response to all of this is for girls and women to be taught to cover up and to be ashamed of their bodies because “boys will be boys.” I think that is pathetic. Men need to take responsibility for their actions and respect women and not blame it on women dressing “too provocatively,” etc. All of this is why it is refreshing and seems very natural to be with men and women who practice naturism.
I’m 69 now and was among the generation that swam naked in high school. My high school senior year was ’65-’66. I was never very good at school sports, the kind played with a ball, because I could never keep track of where the ball was or where it was supposed to go; but I was a good swimmer and I looked forward to the portion of my senior year’s PE classes wherein swimming was to be taught.
The following week, two or three suits were in the line-up but most of the boys still chose to swim naked. I say “chose” because I figured everyone had a bathing suit and I thought that even the poorest fellow among us could have acquired one overnight if he had wanted to. No, I think that most of us could have admitted to enjoying skinny dipping and some of us even acknowledged it aloud.
If I had been one of the populars, one of the trend-setters, I might have continued to swim naked; but I had been a social maverick through middle school, had continued to be one in high school, and had actually had to fight one or two of the boys in that class in previous years, so standing out in the crowd just was not worth it. I put on a suit the next Tuesday. So did the other four.
Thinking of Noah’s comments and Frank’s reply, for us we did have a reference framework: that nudity was acceptable in front of some of the staff but, once they were accepted at all, this sub-set of the staff did not have to be providing personal care for their presence to be acceptable, whereas those staff who lacked a legitimate reason ever, were never accepted. So I can quite understand how boys and men were OK being naked in front of people of any age and gender before the 1980s; it was the circumstances that counted, not the mere fact that the males were naked.
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